2 things. firstly you cant just make stuff up and then use that to justify your argument.

secondly, what sort of group would attack countries, bomb civilians, try to remove and replace the governemnt, kidnap enemy soldiers, torture them and hold them in cages for years? terrorists, no, that would be your armed forces

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Sorry I would have to disagree. There is a clear difference in attacking armed groups hiding in the general population and having civilian casualties while doing this and specifically attacking civilian populations on purpose. If it was the armies goal to kill all of the civilians that they could, we would not have the problems that we have now as all of the fighters and civilians would be dead, bombed from above by mass old fashioned airstrikes until survival and food became more important than attacking us. any that tried to escape from the death traps could be shot as they fled the cities. We only need what is under the land not the people on top. The Army is not going after the people only the fighters.

"Soldiers" have to be treated fairly under the terms of the Geneva Convention. If you are not employed by your country to fight for it in uniform, you are not a soldier. Just because You pick up a rifle and attack someone doesn't make you a soldier. Soldiers are acountable for their actions. With these Resistance fighters whom are they accountable to? no one. Letting them loose with assurance from their government means nothing as they do not fall under their government's control. I say let them free when they renounce their ways. Or better yet let them taste their own justice. I mean Fair is Fair. ...Maybe we should adopt the current style that they use for captured prisoners, We should tape us cutting off each and every one of their heads and desecrating the bodies.

Rommel's Philosphy would work best here and he was a great Gentleman General. We will afford you every comfort that you give our soldiers. No more, no less.

Problem is that they don't care.

As for it being our country, Yes it is, we learned our ways from you europeans. How many cultures have you ruined, exploited, massacared in your history. Do not stand on your pile of dead and yell at us for ours. We do nothing that when you had the power and reach did not do and with more flair. Now that your countries can't do it, it's bad that we are.

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Firstly your arrogance shows in your statements of Hezbollahs goals

Technically those soliders were CAPTURED that makes them Pow's, Isreal has thousands of Lebannise Pow's Hezbollah may have underestimated their responce, however, Isreal went in all guns blazing and were not prepaired for the barrage of rockets it recieved

Bomb a neighboarding country...

Errrr my god man your head will have to be removed from your butt by surgery

Campaign to kill all jews

You showed your Arrogance and idiotic ideals here, they are on a campaign to kill all Isrealies, Christians, musliums and Jews NOT JUST JEWS.

This is a different age to the land grabbing Europians and Americans, this has to be stopped before a 3rd country and a 4th get involved, then a 5th and 6th... Can we see where this might eventually end up, the entire middle east at war, with britian, America and Isreal fighting the entire muslim world, this would not be good for anyone, especially the people there

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you may have a point bert, but i was simply trying to show how rediculous SuperSmithie09's definition of terrorism is. however must just point out a few things :
"kill all of the civilians that they could" - are you implying that this is any terrorists goal?

"soldier - n. 1 a person who srerves in an army"
"prisoner of war - n. a person captured and imprisoned by the enemy in a war"
"war - n. a state of armed conflict between different nations, states or armed groups"
- OED

"We should tape us cutting off each and every one of their heads and desecrating the bodies. " - I think some of your POWs might prefer that to years of torure.

"Problem is that they don't care. " and their problem is that you dont care

"As for it being our country... " blah blah blah. Im am not my ancestors.
I've never killed anyone. I've never torured anyone. I have actively protested and campaigned against wrongdoing wherever and whenever I see it. simply claiming 'you started it! ' is playground talk.

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oh no....i think its comming.....i cant say it no i wont....LOL....i just might

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Yes terrorist want to shock society into their control. Do what I want or I'll kill you is usually effective....

your definition of soldier is a bit too general. Soldiers have to have a "control" they have to be beholden to someone, have to have a chain of command, an accountability. If I pick up an AK and attack a group of people who are differnt than me, because my government is unfriendly with them.... Does that make me a soldier or a nut with a Gun.

Unfortunately most of the detainees do not meet the requirements because of thier "militia's" unwillingness to follow Article 3 in the third convention of the geneva Convention.

Your right, A quick death serves no one. We should let them rot. Let them be a reminder to others not to take that road or they too will live out an unfulfilled life and die in disgrace.

No I care. I know enought to know they are not all in the wrong. All I ask is that My beliefs and my rights not be sacrificed upon their altar. When I saw them flocking and celebrating in the streets after 9/11 I didn't riot and set fire to any embassies. Can I not want to live in a world where dissenting opinion can be discussed and not automatically wrong because it is in conflict with the Koran? India won its freedom by Peaceful Resistance. I can support that. I cannot support wanton attacks.

No your not your ancestor, but you benefit from them. The sad this is that the midle east has a history longer than europe or America and it is still in the shape that it is in.

Protest away, good for you. I've never killed anyone or tortured anyone either ( not counting my little brother ) What does that mean, the majority of the people in the world can claim that....

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this is what we have come too, defining words. This is what the Romans did before the barbarians wiped them out. We are defining Terrorism and Terroriss like they care. Any person who uses Terror and kills civilians and hides behinds civilians and kills themselves intentionally to kill other people is a terrorist. Hezbollah's group is a terrorsit group, because if it wasnt then there would not be all this controversy about whether Israel wa in the right from defending itself from another nations ARMY. But it is not an army!!!! THAT is the problem. We are disputing whether Israel has the right toblame a nation for harboring terrorost and initiate war against it. Lets keep on target here and stop debating is hezbollah is a terrorist or not the answer is obvious.


Now about the Koran and "the infidels must die" why could it not be in the Koran and for the kind person using 5 yr old logic saying that his muslim friend never killed any christins, kudos to you, great observation skills. I know lots of Jewish people being part jewish myself and Exodus 20 vs 2 says : Thou shaly not take the Lord's name in vain" under penalty of death. Needless to say they have never stoned me. Infact I dont know any people who have been stoned, the fact of the matter is the Old Testament and the Koran are two completely different books. The whole atmosphere is different. I have yet to read or come across a Jewish terrorist, maube I am not reading properly and I could suspect so but Muslims follow the Koran to the letter thats why thiefs get thier hand chopped off in the M.E, for stealing and Hews get prison time noy paying back 7 times what they stole as it says in Leviticus.

To the other kind person who said that christians live peacefully in Iran, my only question is WHERE? On Sundays I here about members og my faith that disappear on preaching campaigns in IRAN and are never heard of agani, others who die and even others who have to hide underground to practive thier christian faith for fear of the government. So please post your facts and opinions but come on if you are not sure of something say so.

I havent been followinf tyhe nrws for the last 2 weels so if someone could brief me a little with e facts, that would be great.

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The koran doesn't say all infidels must die

Only the extreamists believe that and even then i doupt they do, they are after an excuse to kill innocents

I believe it says more along the lines of Non-muslims must be converted, and since it was written by a war lord I can understand why it doesn't say do all you can to convert it


btw you cannot be partly jewish, you are one religion not 2 your family my be jewish but you arn't

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um yes you can.Since Israel was not a country until '48. People associated the group of people and the religion together. Well one of my great grandparent wasfrom Ethiopia, the black Jews. and one from Ireland a white jew. So yup I can say so.

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