no Thabin you cant give creds to anyone..... and yes markey made all the difference.... becuase now you can BUY Recs with creds which wasnt possible before..... so now you can BUY points if you will.... and this is what is causing all this fuss.....
Also the fact that it seems to be the time of year when errm.... "Its doogs fault" banners wave high...... .......








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thabin when you always used to buy credits you did do to get upgrades, not translate them to troops as you so correctly stated. That makes all the difference in the world.

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Bit off topic....M.o.M. just so that you do know......

YES I DO KNOW ABOUT IT. I AM FIGHTING TO GET IT STOPPED. IT IS AT BEST DOUBLE DIPPING. I AM UP ON THE BOARDS BECAUSE OF IT. IT IS NOT FAIR TO THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO GAIN THEM.

On the other hand, non def resources should be able to gain points as those are the ones that make you get attacked so should have some value as far as points go to coincide with the risk. Maybe not as many as we are giving now but some. Points do not matter to me as I personally do not care or I'd have had alot more before now. I am a builder and want to build HW's and enjoy being the clan's banker. I have over 21 2.5's that are currently in use. I enjoy hanging out and helping my fellow clanmates.

The other extreme is that we will go back too far the other way and HW's will start becomming scarce again. Personally I'd stick with the intrest and get rid of the points. That way the intrest will be invested into training ships.

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well that an idea..... interest but no points..... but personally points are nice... you get a sense of pride when you get points just for being a good player.... which is why dogg and proff havning that mant points is someewhat degrading.,.... cuz they bought most of those points... as oposed to my hard earnd 6 k for recs this round....
and also BERT... .... I do belive you get points for all Recs on plannet... or is it just Def.?....








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All resources give you points, not just E and T. Although most of the points generally come from E and T because it gives points and is your Def, hence the Double dipping.

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to sum up that everybody is saying - REMOVE THE MARKET... I don't think that a lot of people would agree, but there was once a time when you could hang in the trading forum, making bids... So the credits would still have a purpose - upgrades

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Yes, and then everyone really wanted to trade troops for credits, and wanted to have a way to do so. But, I can easily leave the market in place, but change to a separate market currency, so that upgrades can only be gained by use of credits. I would not mind that, as it would actually make credits more valuable and more players would be anxious to arrange private trades of resources for credits, as used to be done before there was a market in place.

By the way, before we had a market, the price that was offered by Filas and a few others for purchase of credits using troops (getting others to buy credits for them in exchange for giving troops) was 50 credits per 100k troops. The price in the market now is almost exactly the same as the open market trading price was prior to the introduction of the market. However, the major difference now is that it is easier to trade resources for credits and more players are able to get and use upgrades.

As for getting rid of the market, that is not possible. The justification for getting funds approved to purchase the game was that we would be able to collect research data on market pricing changes over time in response to external changes (for example, the delinking of credits from market currency would be such a change, so it is not a bad thing from my point of view, but it will make getting credits for planet and technology upgrades harder to do for most players who do not have cash to buy credits).

Also, if we have too few credits purchased, we may have insufficient funds to keep the server hosted, which might require moving the game to a server oncampus (which would save money, but reliability would be lower and speed would suffer). I am not in favor of changes which result in less income to support the game. None of the funds go to me or to the University, with 100% of income going to support the needs of the game, but some people still seem to object to having the game have any economic viability, which means, it ends up being abandoned or poorly supported, which was the situation Zygi was facing.

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So no changes that would cause the game to suffer monetarily...... Hmm.....hence you support the buying of Points cuz it provides money for the game......
heh..... what can I say?... I wonr even bother going into the alternatives... Rukna had good ideas... the only suggestion that still work=s then is the statics that show who is buying Credits...... That would still work..... unless the players are ashamed of buying credits thats the only way the game would suffer..... though that might result in them not buying credits anymore due to them becoming target....

The idea of limiting creds is just such a way more suttle solutin.... it might even increase cred sales due to player not wanting to have to bother with the intricases of ther market and just buying creds just for the hell of getting the upgrades.... in which case the stats of whos buying would still be valued, cuz the ones who dont yet they still could affords credits would like to pat themselves on the shoulder for they adeptness at playing.... also I already spoke on the issue of the Market eating creds.... so all your stats on the market are flawed all real market dont EAT money it just recicles it... that alkso solves the isues of liquidity, were the market to be fixed.......

all in all... your game... game do what you will...... though listening to the poeple ho play the game is always a good start....









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So get rid of the points for resources part and most people will be happy, sounds okay to me.

And I have to correct you MoM... "becuase now you can BUY Recs with creds which wasnt possible before"

Yes it was possible before, I had done it many times. It just wasn't possible directly through the game interface. Simply put, I buy credits for a player, he gave me resources. There was always a great deal of trading of credit for resources and resources for credits.

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