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Temos pavadinimas: first hours of noob arena thoughts (Paprasta tema)

Autorius: theKID

Tema pradėta: 14:51:02 2010 06 03

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theKID Paskelbta: 14:51:02 2010 06 03

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For the second mission, moving resources with a 25k transport wasn’t that bad because I only had to move 1 space each time so didn’t use much uranium and only took about 1 minute total.

All missions are current? They should pop up 1 at a time as to not lead to confusion and show when they have been completed.

As a new player the first thing I would think when it starts talking about use this resource and not this resource is, what these resources are. Maybe add a mission or just a chart on it that explains what each resource is used for in ships, ship building, defense or other basic uses so they have an understanding before they waste them.

Mission 9 should come before mission 8. If I was new, I would feel as if I could not do anything more because I was basically out of resources. If you exchanged mission 9 for mission 8 they will have the green planets and get all that extra iron, uranium and troops they need.

As we do mission 9 the transport starts to get annoying/boring. Maybe a 50k model would be better? For all planets that don’t have 10k of each resource you could hold all the planets resources and only have to hyperjump once per planet. Plus a 50k model would be useful throughout the entire noob arena.

Now after making the recommended 15k assault that I was told by the missions to make I am stuck. All of my nearbyes are x10 or more and the 10k variety so have 20k defense. This is disheartening to a new player who used most of their iron to make a ship, but now they need to wait until they have enough iron to make another ship. We should not be training players to beat the missions. We should be training players to play the game.

The probing mission looks like a blur when you first read it. A player who does not know much about the game probally will not understand the concept of probing. And even if they do, and can successfully find a planet, it takes assaults a hefty while to travel + 1000 on all coordinates.
Trying to follow directions as they are stated, did not detect any planets on first probe. Tried 4 using the guide and failed to detect any planets. I am not out of gold with no options other than change what the guide told me to do so I can continue probing, or wait to create a new assault. And I missed the fact it said none of my systems have nearbyes, when both had nearbyes that were different systems. Rereading it again and picking out the important details makes it make a little more sense, but a new player would already not know what to do.
Used my 8 credits to buy gold, but would a new player know that that’s there? Maybe a mission devoted to voting and showing them the market? With that I found another x9 planet I am able to take, but it will take 99 minutes because I don’t have enough uranium to do better flights with the volume model.

I now have 7 x9 planets, and am out of troops, cannot create a bigger assault and will have to wait until I can gather another 10,000 troops until I can continue capturing 1 more planet. Then wait for another 10,000 until I can finish capturing my third system.

Im currently producing a whopping 90 troops per 15 minutes per planet using the ratio of 3t 3v and 3i recommended, and at 7 planets…90*7=630.. 10,000/630= 15.87..15.87*15=238 minutes . Another 4 hours till I can capture 1 more planet.
With the hour and a half wait for my assault to get there, and now 4 hours till I can capture my 8th planet as a new player it is looking pretty grim. New players expect things to come quickly to them to learn a game.


Shadow Stalker Paskelbta: 15:13:54 2010 06 03

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smart people would probably send the assualt before they have the troops and just put the troops on wen the ship gets there that way less waiting around as u dont need to wait for troops to produce and only then send ur assualt also if u dont send the assualt with troops it gives extra room for more uranium for faster flights




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Dios Paskelbta: 15:15:07 2010 06 03

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But that judgement comes from intuition and experience of playing the game. It's not the sort of concept you would initially expect a new player to grasp.




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theKID Paskelbta: 15:21:14 2010 06 03

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and i didnt send my assualt with troops on it. im stating it from the way a new player sees and does it. based on what the instructions tell you to do, and how much resources to put on your items.


Pray Paskelbta: 15:24:08 2010 06 03

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I think it's important to leave room for screw ups in the newbie arena. i.e. a player crashing their 15k assault, don't penalize them for wasting 15k iron, just start them off with enough resources that they can mess up and still complete the missions. I think the newbie arena needs to be able to be completed within a day if so desired. Scratch the x20s from the newbie arena, keep them only as x9's and x10's.




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FORTRANshadow Paskelbta: 15:25:45 2010 06 03

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I know that I had no idea how hyperdrive worked for my first two weeks, and took hours and hours to get from point to point.

Just for clarification, hyperdrive in this game does not work like hyperdrive in most science fiction, but instead behaves like space-time "folding", not "displacement".


theKID Paskelbta: 15:26:35 2010 06 03

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i havent even done something that stupid to see how long it would take to recover. let alone be willing to wait for the recovery.


theKID Paskelbta: 16:57:28 2010 06 03

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just a second ago i spotted 3 transports of people who started last month with 1 planet. after accidentally hitting enter bz with their transport it looks as if they quit because they couldnt go on


Pray Paskelbta: 16:59:50 2010 06 03

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Get rid of BZ for newbie arena?




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theKID Paskelbta: 17:03:53 2010 06 03

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i dont think it serves much of a purpose? i looked around it doesnt look like theres a noob warp. the only thing i can think of is if you prob to opposite side of universe and find planets, but how many noobs do that


Shadow Stalker Paskelbta: 17:29:03 2010 06 03

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probably quite a few by forgetting to put - in the right places?




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